Carnarvon Escorts & Adult Services
😍100/20mins😍 Out/Incall Independent sexy Japanese girl Luna, nat tits, GFE, good fun
My name is Luna from Japan, 22 year old, sexy body, natural big tits with long hair and always have a smile on my face.💋
These are my recent photos, I will always make sure that you are comfortable and relaxed! 😍
I'm sure that you are dreaming of finding an unforgettable experience so let me assure you that you have found the girl of your dreams!💋
I know exactly what a man wants and knows how to give it! your pleasure will be my top priority!💋
If you are ready to try new things with a beautiful girl like myself, then you are in for the time of your life.💋
Full services😍
$100 for 20 mins
$130 for 30 mins
$180 for 45 mins
$230 for 60 mins
Nude massage with happy ending: $130/30mins, $200/hr
OUTCALL $400/HR
text or call me:
0485 552 966☎️😍
Japanese Nuru Massage ( IN-HOUSE OR OUT CALL SERVICE )
Indulge yourself with the erotic art of Nuru Massage, discover a whole new massage experience...Pure made-in Japan service...
Every gentleman receives what you expect! The masseuses will submit your wishes, full filling deepest desires, making all fantasies come true!
Especially all of our staffs have been trained as Nuru masseuses in professional Japanese team. They are young and active, gentle and considerate, with great personalities...
Also We provide:
1 Full Body Aroma Relaxing Massage
2 Full Body exfoliating scrub
Massage table room / Japanese traditional futon tatami room
Call Sharon for booking: 0420229249
Sophie 🇫🇷🌹leaving Sunday! 🛫the passionate french TS in Perth 🇦🇺💋
Hello dear 🌹
I'm Sophie, a white french transgirl, unique and short-lived in Perth (time flying so fast unfortunately and I'm living my last couple of days here).
I'm based from 10min to CBD and airport (hosting currently available and preferred) ~
Slim and slender, I'm 173 cm tall and weigh 56 kg, with a lovely 85D (fr size) bust.
My feminine face, the result of hormonal magic over several years, is distinguished by wild hair with coppery highlights. Mistress of my body to the very end, several tattoos are gradually appearing on it (hidden in my photos for privacy reasons).
I am my own work of art, and perhaps soon your work of fantasy... ;D
After years & years mtf transition time (no srs/no bottom surgery), I'm very confident with my gender, my body, naturally feminize 💅🏻
Whilst my personality I'm kindly, sweet & natural🌹
(and, oopsi, naughty too 🤭)
I can be your delicious so special girlfriend, super open-minded for all your fantasies & hidden desires ;3
And with a fancy french accent hihi 🥐
I'm always enthusiastic to be your smiling special female companion in different places (looking safety oc) 😊
During our 'rendezvous' I could be the ying & the yang.. ☯️
😇😈 : Mainly bottom but versatile I love give the taste of my transexual "baguette"🥖 (standard sized, beginners don't worries) in the mouth of my lover 🤭
Make me feel desired more than anything ❤️🔥 has an special swelling up effect on this one..🫣
(full top need to be requested in the booking procedure)
If you're looking for passion you have surely realised that I am definitely the person of your dreams.. 👄
I love roleplays too, but most of my stuff staying in France as if you want special dress code please to bring me 🤗
(I love lingerie too, i have red set, black set, blue set, pink set, green set, school outfit, french maid, fishnet) if you want help me to complete my little collection 😘)
Same if you like have a little glass before playing together, usually i don't really drink however cheers together is ever a good way to break the ice 🥂
But I brought my special french kiss skill with me of course.. 💋
No matter if you are straight, first-timer, or a little experienced in trans field, I’ll always accommodate you and make you at ease.
Looking for a unicorn?
Have I mentioned that I love to play with couples? My added fee (+$50) is modest to see me as a couple (or throuple...), so don't let the thought linger in your imagination.. go ahead and treat your SO (or FWB's), and yourself to something that will continue to spark thoughts of debauchery long after (cuckold session able too).
Looking for a special Dominatrix?
I also have some skills to be your powerful french Mistress if it's rather your thing...➰😈
Double sessions are available with Faye Belle, my best partner in crime 🤭
She is a gorgeous, sensual sweetheart, and also sometimes a dominant kinky Mistress (cisfemale/no transfemale).
Catch us while you can for a unique experience.
A fantastic time that you will never forget ✨❤️🔥👇🏻
https://ivysociete.com/escorts/profile/faye-belle
I'm happy to join you with another lover as well, up to you to make the organization 🤗
I welcome all respectful clients.
I do not select clients based on such things as age, experience, body type, race, disability, orientation, sex or gender expression etc.
As the health of both myself and my clients is a top priority, I keep my vaccinations and testing up to date, and kindly ask that my clients do the same.
Of course your privacy and need for complete discretion is absolutely important to me. When you contact me don't hesitate to detail your availability of texting. By the way my place (next to a train station) is welcoming and very discreet 😘
Have a lightly day, thank you for your reading & maybe see you soon,
Avec plaisir <3
Sophie
Post-scriptum: I don't reply phone calls, as well I really appreciate (and I favor 😘) the polite & courteous gentlemen, with clear & concise requests please 🙏
To Book ✨
Simply Text or WhatsApp --📱 0474 050 302
Please use the following template for example 👇🏻
"Hello Sophie,
My name is (name/alias )and I'm (age).
I'm wanting to book a rendezvous with you on (date-hour)
In (if outcall)
For (how long time-request-details-extra)
I like (any things to know you better like sex background, mood, practices, fantasies..)
Would you be available please? Thanks "
It's an example, you can custom it oc, but it will help make things seamless and help secure your booking first 🤗
Please quote "rendezvous" (to show you've read my info).
A deposit could be asked, in reason to the increase of timewaster person, unfortunately.
If you prefer email contact 💌: [email protected]
Available daily 6:30am – 11:30pm
Bookings early morning-evening-night could be available if planned beforehand.
Last-minute bookings or "available now?" are not really favored 😘 Be organized ~
Post-scriptum 2 : I speak & like speak english, but I'm not native ~ so please to be understanding during our moment, particularly if you know you have a accent hihi 🙏🏻
2nd reason why to specify in writing a little bit your personal desires, preferences, mood, etc 🤗
It's an important way to improve the quality of that moment 🩷
AUSSIE bombshell ELITE Escort. Unforgettable experience.. The real BJ queen
*** HEY PERTH, LARA LUXXE IS BACK!! ***
AUSSIE BOMBSHELL~ AVAILABLE NOW ~ Contact me on 0414-094-862 to book
AVAILABLE IN MAYLANDS.~
Gorgeous, young, FUN sex kitten, eager to please and keen to play
THIS IS A LEGIT AD, ALL PHOTOS ARE OF ME AND YES I AM AUSSIE!!!
I'm a slim but curvy, naturally busty, dark haired beauty with long brown hair and pretty green eyes...
I love what I do and I do it well! I offer a non rushed, laid back, friendly service. My service is more of a GFE.. If your GF was a naughty porn star that is xx
Available in your state for a limited time only..
Name - Lara d Luxxe
Age - 34
Height - 5'9/ 174cm
Weight - 75 kilos
Boobies - Natural E cup
Body type - Slim/fit/curvy
Eyes - Green
Skin - Tanned/soft/smooth
Nationality - Spanish/Irish
Personality - Fun/energetic/outgoing
MY PRICES - these are not negotiable
15 - $200
30 - $300
45 - $400
1hr - $450
2hrs - $800
3hrs - $1000
All night (8hrs) - $2300
Outcall prices for Perth CBD and surrounding suburbs, simply add $50 to the original price
EXTRAS - Are available upon request -
Tell me exactly what you're wanting and I'll either tell you the $ it will take to make it happen, or tell you I don't offer it. Do not hold back and please be honest when asking for an extra service!! Failure to do so may lead to you not being satisfied and that just won't do!!
I prefer to be contacted via text at first please;
In your text, could you please tell me your Name, Age, Nationality, what time you would like to visit, what kind of visit you want and how long you would like to stay for.. a photo is always helpful too (of your face I mean! This is not a request for a dick pic)
I know it's HARD.. pardon the pun.. but please try to be patient as I cannot always reply straight away. I will always reply though, unless asked not to.
So now you've done the boring bit and read all you need to know.. Go ahead and send me a text, I guarantee you won't regret it!!!
2 girls. deep throat PSE BDSM LOVELY NEXT DOOR GIRL IN A PRIVATE HOUSE
Hi baby,
I can do tantra, tantric massage prostate massage and sensual massage, erotic play in my style.
I am hot and sexy with big boobs and very good body shape. I have tight ass, juicy pussy and very good in sucking.
I am very sweet, charming and beautiful. You will feel like I am your girlfriend while I am doing with you.
NAUGHTY WILD SLUT HAVING LUST AND SEDUCTION 🫦🫦 AVAILABLE IN TOWN, BBB J CI.M! 🍆🍆
Hi babe,
I am a wild and raunchy girl with a very open mind. I love what I do and I ensure that every client has an amazing time with me whether it be short, long, girlfriend experience or a professional booking.
I always make sure my new friends leave satisfied and I have an extremely high return rate. I offer all kinds of services and make sure we have a connection right from the first.
I'm intelligent, educated, fit and fun!! I have a very bubbly personality and I have been told I’m dominant in my service. I’m busty, i have a nice round big boobs.
My specialty is my erotic strip tease, I love a shower for two and I enjoy lots of foreplay and teasing. I have sports massage qualifications if you wanted that deep.
I have a lot of regular clients and I do tend to get quite busy so please be patient if I don’t get back to you right away! I prefer phone text over call to confirm a booking.
Instead of writing a big novel on my services just give me a text and let’s get to know one another personally.
Party NEW arrive 💙24hr in/out ☎️☎️💚🧡❤️💜HOT AND SEXY VIP SERVICES FOR YOU💙💚🧡❤️💜 ....REAL age NO FAKE.....
hello guys,❤️
im Klarity, super young and sex girls.
I want to let you in on a secret - "I am just a little bit of a slut".
So what does a little bit of a slut do? Well, first of all I am an unforgettable flirt. From the moment we meet I will subtly show you my desire to have you between my legs.
What's next? Ok so now I really need to show you I am interested. I might just unzip your pants, put my hand inside and grab your cock and gently pull it out of your trousers. There's only one thing left to do now! Get on my knees and put it in my mouth.
I'll start of slow but that's just because I want you to be able to enjoy it for at least a little while. If I start off too wild you may lose control and blow my mouth...
Let's get back to the finale later. Because I want to fuck you. I'll jump on top, or bend over, or maybe wrap my legs around your neck! I love these positions that let your cock slip that little bit deeper into my tight wet pussy. I love the feel of real natural hard cock in my pussy. That genuine feeling of man-to-woman contact that just can't be recreated anywhere else. That's what makes people fall in love. That's what I love!
Pretty much I do most of the service that men want.
I am always happy to play with another girl - that's right a real bisexual threesome! The one you see in porn movies.
I love to talk, I love to joke, and I am a fuck machine but not just a fuck machine. I will get to know you and we can be friends. I am a true Asian escort. Something that's a little bit addictive. Just like I am a little bit of a slut.
My services list:
Taking a bath together, Licking body, Body to body massage, 69 Oral each other, COB, Tits Job, suck, Kissing, Sex, more n more
Standard Massage & Full Service Prices :❤️
$100/20mins
$120/30mins
$150/45mins
$170/60mins
Outcall $300/1hr
0485 555 924☎️📞☎️📞
✨👸100/30mins, ❤️Double Party Porn service Busty babe, rimming, kicking, dominant, Outcall 250/hr
Your naughty, fun, charming, highly seductive girl next door that you've always wanted to fuck! Now I'm only a text or call away on 0499 079 118.
Make no mistake, I'm sharp witted, funny, highly intelligent and can hold a thrilling and riveting conversation with you till dawn. I adore men and love to hear your story. I'm also extremely private and value your discretion above everything.
I love to laugh, and I love to listen. I love the simple pleasures of relaxation and intimacy. I'm a sexual goddess. I feel the most alive when I'm in my sexual essence. Life was not meant to be boring. It's supposed to be thrilling, exciting, tantalizing and fun and that's exactly the service I provide. I'm far from shy, and I absolutely love the spotlight. I love the thrill of desire and feeling desired by men...and women.
I can be a one-time treat or a long-term lover. Take me. Taste me. I'm yours.
Services including: Protected sex, suck, massage, licking balls, different position, mutual oral, 69 etc.
Incall GFE❤️
100/30min,
150/60min
Special Package including na-t oral: $150/30mins
Outcall: $250/hr
Nude massage and happy ending:
100 half hour
150 hour
Please call or text: 0499 079 118 ☎️
New Japanese fake no pay
Hi guys. Come to try new Japanese service.
young generation with better service ~
📳💚🩵💙💜🩷❤️🧡💛🔞
Welcome Gentleman...
I'm fun-loving, super friendly young 23years.
I have stunning face big hazel eyes and beautiful silky-smooth skin,Ecup 💯Natural Boobs, slim sexy seductive body👠👙
I can be the Girl Friend you've always wanted, a horny Star behind closed doors,or maybe just as a companion on those lonely evenings where a beautiful girl on your arms will make all the difference.
I provide passionate GFE service 💋
IN/OUT CALL AVALABLE TOO!!outcall service will be required deposit upfront
Text for me more information 💕
💖 I'll be waiting your message
Slutty babe Young, Sexy and Pretty. Top service. 100% satisfied.🔥🔥
Hi,
A delightful distraction from your day to day life and eager to meet you!
I'm all about your satisfaction and I'm sure we'll have fantastic fun figuring
out each other's soft spots. 🔥
I'm a sensual intimate, down to earth person with a genuine and passionate touch that's sure to raise your heart rate. With beautiful soft curves and a penchant for pleasure all rolled into a fun package! I adore a passionate and intimate girlfriend experience as well as something more primal, something steamier. 🔥
I'm a kinky person and would love to explore some of your wildest fantasies with you. I'm excited to chat about extras that cater to your desire....and I don't bite! Unless you ask my wish is for you to feel completely comfortable expressing your needs at any point of our time together. I look forward to meeting you.🔥
INDIAN NAUGHTY INDEPENDENT SLUTTY WILD SEXY NAUGHTY BABE TOURING IN TOWN!
If you appreciate discretion, confidentiality and you are looking for a sexy, sweet and fun girl who provides the ultimate experience, I am the one for you!!
I will use all my enchant and sensuality to make you even hornier, relaxed and wishing much more, the best girlfriend experience babe! If you are looking for a sexy and sweet girl I am here for you.
If you like a women to be smart sexy, beautiful and glamour you are on the best way! I am an energetic and attentive lover, who takes pleasure in experiencing a genuine connection with respectful gentlemen.
Our time together will be intense, passionate and NEVER rushed. I will make you feel at ease from the minute we meet and leave you aching to return from the minute you leave.
I am a clean girl, sweet but NAUGHTY, I can confidently say that the services I provide are the best around here, my lustful body and skills will bring you the most different experience.
Perfect legs, perfect vibe, perfect choice
Hi, I’m Mika 💖
A glamorous showgirl and stunning crossdresser, presenting a beautifully groomed, polished look from head to toe. I have warm brown eyes, long blonde/caramel hair, and a fit dancer’s physique (65kg, 5’8” — taller in heels). I take great pride in my appearance and hygiene, always fresh, smooth, and well-presented.
I’m genuinely kind, friendly, and easy to talk to. I offer a relaxed, respectful, and professional experience, whether you’re looking for simple relief or something more immersive. Your comfort and enjoyment always come first.
If you have a fantasy in mind, you’re welcome to share it — I’m open-minded, understanding, and experienced, so you can feel completely at ease in my company.
Cleanliness and discretion are very important to me. I work from a private, tidy, and quiet inner-city location with fresh towels and safe, hygienic practices at all times.
I love creating a warm, enjoyable experience where you can unwind and feel appreciated. I welcome people from all walks of life — all backgrounds, sizes, and preferences.
✨ Services & Rates
15 mins – $120
30 mins – $200
45 mins – $250
1 hour – $300
(Please arrange and confirm details prior to your visit.)
I’m very respectful and ask the same in return — no explicit messages or image requests. I’m happy to share face and dressed photos upon request.
📞 Call or text Mika: 0400 531 186
If I miss your call, please leave a message and I’ll get back to you as soon as I can.
Available Friday morning thru to Monday.
Appointments available with at least 1 hour’s notice. Outcalls may also be arranged.
I offer a relaxed, unrushed experience with a stylish, confident, and feminine presence.
Looking forward to meeting you soon 💕
NEW💎City Girl! - Slender Model Body💯Perky Tight & Super FUN!
Craving for a NEW Girl. I am Vivi Just Arrived Today in City! CUM & Visit~
Number - 0459 859 260
Ps: I am working Privately~ First Time & Lets have Fun~
Naughty and always provide high-quality massage & Sex. Good Looking girl & a model Busty figure.
I am very passionate in everything we do! * VERY FRIENDLY & HORNY * I can become your romantic story, naughty one or being a NAUGHTY girl as you desire...
Here is my Services:💯
Standard service:Touching, sexy lingerie, passionate intimate pleasure, massage, variety of position, breast slides, breast sucking, sex with condom, blow job with condom
$120/15mins.
$150/30mins.
$180/45mins.
$200//60mins
Extra
service Bbbj + 50
1: Stand Serves, What's included:
Full GFE service
Any Position You Prefer
Sexy Lingerie
$150/30mins
$200/45mins
$250/60mins
2: Reasons to book my GFE:
1) Naughty, Wild, Full of Girl Friend Feeling
2) Body rub with my whole body that can enhance your orgasm
3) My best skill and service will bring us to heaven together
My Incall Prices:
30 Mins - $200
45 Mins - $250
60 Mins - $300
GFE Services are:
Touching, sexy lingerie, passionate intimate pleasure, massage, variety of position, breast slides, breast sucking, sex with condom, blow job with condom
3: Dragon Service:
$350/30mins
$450/60mins
All extras include:
B bbj
Dfk
Rimming
Porn star experience
Golden shower
Squirt
COB and everything included
Condom Sex Dragon service
No Matter you like a Full Service or Relaxation Rub - I got you covered~
Call or text me on 0459 859 260
Please support neighbours girl private job lol True Girl friend experience!
🌸 Your Sweet Escape – Michelle 🌸
incall location at city area , feel free to come visit me xx
"Your neighbour young girl Michelle now available for unforgettable moments! True Pure Girl friend experience”
Contact me for booking 0479132939
✨ About Me:
- 19 yo young Asian doll
- Shy until you unlock me (hint: it’s easy)coz I am new to the industry
- your playful companion
-New to this – which means zero burnout, 100% genuine enthusiasm!
🌟 Why Book Me?
✅ Fresh & Fun – No scripted routines, just real chemistry
✅ True Girl friend experience, neighbour girl / friend / classmate type girl
Contact me on 0479132939 for booking
My price for GFE:
500/hr 2 shots and 950/2 hrs multiple shots
For longer booking or overnight booking please contact me to discuss
🎮 My Vibe: Shy at first… but very eager to learn
📅 Availability: 7 days a week but mainly night time coz i have my daily life at day time . Longer booking or overnight booking please contact me to discuss xxxx
💌 Gentlemen only, please! Be ready to share:
* A quick intro (age/occupation)
* Preferred date/time
* Optional but appreciated: Fun fact about you!
No timewasters please
outcall also available, Hotel/Private residences only (safety first)
Perfect Japanese body gliding massage (oil or nuru gel)
11 am —-later CoCo HK
You can believe::What you see is what you get. Thank you so much for reading my advertisement carefully. Please make sure you can actually come and book an appointment with me beforehand. I hate anything or anyone that is fake. I am a yoga instructor with an S-shaped figure, 158 cm tall and weighing 51 kg. My smooth, hairless genitals, firm and natural breasts, and full, perky buttocks will bring you an electric shock-like pleasure with every gentle touch. I offer a variety of professional and intoxicating massage services in a quiet and comfortable private studio in the city center. To ensure you have a healthy and enjoyable experience, please confirm that you are in good health and free from odor and skin problems before booking. Thank you very much for your understanding.
Girlfriend feeling
together shower
French Kiss
body massage
Natural sucking
Cum mouth
Superb 69 Position: Unforgettable
One person price::
Prices: Full body oil massage Service
60 minutes / $ 250
45 minutes / $ 200
30 minutes / $ 150
Short time $。120
Couples or spouses:
30 minutes/$ 250
45 minutes $ 350
60 minutes $ 450
Japanese SPA Nuru Gel Full Body Massage and Full Service
Nuru
is a sensual, slippery body glide using a unique Japanese water-based "Nuru" gel for an ultra-smooth experience. Extensive body contact provides complete relaxation. Glide down to the back for a relaxing back massage; glide to the front for 69 positions/mutual oral sex, full-body caressing, full-body cat play, and sex..
$ 350 / 60 minutes
$ 500 / 90 minutes.
Outcall full service prices.( one person)
I love parties, fireworks, and couples. I'll fulfill your every wish. However, please be a gentleman and avoid any rude behavior. Please let me know the services and time you require. A $50 deposit is required to ensure a perfect experience when making a serious reservation. Please transfer the deposit to my mobile account: 0414618068. Then send me the receipt. Please call an Uber to your address. I only accept cash and instant bank transfers; I do not accept any pending transfers or credit cards. If the person you see is not me, I will refund double your deposit. Trust me, I will make sure you have an unforgettable and joyful time.
1 hour: $ 350
2 hours: $ 650
4 hours: $ 1000
Booking
If you wish to make a booking please send me a text message that includes the following. I am low volume and high quality focused so please note that If you fail to answer these questions I will ignore your message.
Name:
Age:
Service you would like:
Length of service:
Incall or outcall:
Time and date you want the booking:
hesitate, text me now!
Please DON’T CALL
Please do not use personal numbers. Email messages will not be replied to.
WhatsApp messages only:
+61414 618 068
Penny
PROFESSIONAL COMPANION/ESCORT PENNY
Are you ready to enjoy a fun, flirty, and unforgettable time with some one who's genuine, all natural, and knows how to keep things exciting?
Look no further. Penny's here to bring you exactly what you need.
With her sexy charm, easy going nature, and professional approach you'll feel at ease the minute you meet.
Whether you’re after some fun or something more intimate. Why not indulge in Penny! She is willing to cater to your desires. Book in now to discover a true one-of-a- kind experience.
Penny: where pleasure meets perfection
available for incall or outcall
outcalls have a 1 hr minimum booking $450
20min standard $200
30 min standard $250
1 hr standard $350
all the extras just ask
🈺🈺$1500 full night💙💙 極上の女体
Name: phoebe
Nationality : Japanese (Tokyo)
Age: 19
Cup Size : 35D
Height: 158cm
Weight: 46kg
Size: 5
Welcome to my world of passion and desire.
A little bit about me…..I would describe myself as kind and gentle yet very affectionate. I am very open minded as I know I am super kinky and I know how to play.
I always felt I wanted to give more and explore more on my sexual wilder side whilst taking you on the journey with me.
What you see is 100% real, what you will receive is a un-rushed, truly RAUNCHY unforgettable time with me. You’re assured a spicy exotic experience to remember.
🚫 Anal sex
🚫 Natural sex
🚫 Price negotiation
Natural DDcup Loli 19 YRS🧡💛💚🩵NO use photoshop
Hi gentlemen, this is Loli , You will love my beautiful sexy face and 🔥body
I'm only 19 years old,standing 165cm tall with natural FDD cup
My body is very flexible, soft, young 💦💦and beautiful.
you will feel welcome and relaxed by a young student.
I am full of pure pleasure with a nice round 🍑ass for you!
Text message me the time you want to come
👍👍100% real pictures!no.1️⃣pretty face! 🩷🩷No REAL NO PAY
don’t ask if the pic is real, you can see the tattoo in my leg, 100% real pictures, as you can see in the picture!
Name : Yumi
Age :24
Nationality: Chinese
Size : 6
Boobs : natural D
height : 168 cm
weight : 46 kg
My pic 100% real , you will see me same as photo person
Hi everyone, I am for all those guys who enjoy the thrill of being with that quite little girl who secretly really is that office slut.
I will be very disappointed if you don't roll me over and have your way with me, such a turn on for a slut like me.
I am very naughty and open minded woman who you will enjoy every minute of your time spending with me!
* Price is non-negotiable *
All service is very professional and passionate and intimate experience
😘 😘 Full GFE service
Massage, shower together, lip kissing, 69, mutual oral, mutual touching, body sliding, shower together Sex in multiple positions❤️
💕 $100 for all extras 💕Special dragon
services 💕 Dfk , bbbj, Natural oral, Cim, Cob, body kissing, all body licking, ice and hot bbbj, jelly body sliding,69, multiple shots 💕
30 min$200(1cum)
45 min$250(1cum)
1 hr$300(2cum)
•🚫DO NOT ASK
Anal Sex, Nat Sex, Video calls, Extra photos
•🚫 I don't accept rude clients (not welcomed)
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