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$150/hr
Outcall: $300/hr
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Hey dickhead. Yeah you – the one with the half-chub scrollin' through this like a creep.
Listen the fuck up 'cause I ain't repeatin' myself twice.
I'm Aria. 43 years old. Not some saggy grandma but not a goddamn teenager neither. I got stretch marks from kids who already moved out, tits that point a little south, and a cunt that's still wetter than a gas station slurpee on a July afternoon. You think 43 means dry? Fuck no, sweetcheeks. I'm drippin' just thinkin' about your dick.
Lemme tell you a story – my ex husband? limp fuckin' noodle. Couldn't find my clit with a map and a flashlight. So one night I grabbed the neighbor's boy (22, dumb as rocks, but hung like a horse), dragged him into my laundry room, and made him plow my ass raw on top of the dirty clothes. He came so hard I felt his load splashin' around inside me for two days. That's what I want from you. No romance. No candles. Just sweat and spit and your cock hittin' parts I forgot I had.
What I'm offerin' (read it slow, you horny bastard):
👉 Bareback sex – yeah no rubber. My baby factory shut down years ago. Ovaries are retired. So pump your fuckin' load deep in my sloppy pussy and watch it leak down my thighs like warm honey. I want your NAT RAW dick inside me. No gloves, no regrets.
👉 Anal sex – stick that cock in my tight old asshole. I ain't shy. Fuck it hard. Pull my hair. Slap my wrinkled cheeks 'til they're red. Make me squeal like a stuck pig. I want you to fill my asshole so full I'm walkin' funny the next day.
👉 Gut-deep raw fuckin' – no “gentle lover” bullshit. I want you to dump every drop deep inside every hole I got. Mouth, cunt, ass – don't matter. Fill me up 'til I'm leakin' your baby batter for breakfast. Call it a “cream pie” if you want – I call it Tuesday.
I don't give a flyin' fuck if you're 20 or 60. Skinny, fat, crooked dick, weird balls – don't matter. You just gotta show up hard, ready, and not whine like a little bitch.
💵 PAYMENT – CASH or PAYID (INSTANT ONLY – no delayed, no pending, no “oops my bank's slow” crap. If it ain't green in my hand or instantly in my account, you can walk your blue balls right back out the door.)
📱 TEXT ME. Don't fuckin' call. I'm probably busy ridin' some other bastard's cock or havin' my asshole stretched to heaven. I'll text you back when I'm done – if you're lucky. If you call? I'll ignore your ass.
One last thing 'cause I know you're already grabbin' your dick:
I used to ride tractors for a livin'. Now? I wanna ride your face, then your cock, then your face again. No breaks. No “oh Aria slow down.” Shut the fuck up and fuck me like the filthy 43-year-old whore I am.
Still readin'? Good. Then get your thumb ready, type out a damn message, and come find me. My legs are already open. Your turn.
*P.S. Don't ask for pics. I look exactly like a 43-year-old mom who's been fucked sideways for two decades. You'll love it or you'll leave. Either way, I don't care.* 😘💦🍆
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Hey there,
😉 I’m Eden—a flame burning just for you. My energy? Raw, untamed heat. I thrive on those moments that steal your breath and blur everything else. ✨
This body is a canvas of pleasure, shaped for your delight and my own endless craving. 🍑 Imagine a rhythm that pulls you in, a natural sway that leaves you aching before our skin even meets.
Picture it: your hands in my hair, my lips tracing down your chest, the sound of my voice trembling against you… because I truly can’t get enough. 😮💨
I’m that kind of wild—the kind that leaves sheets soaked, the kind of tight that makes you gasp when you first enter. I’ll move with you, arch for you, and hold your gaze while taking every inch, just to show how beautifully wicked I can be. 🥵
This isn’t just a meeting—it’s your pass into my realm. A space where I pour every skill into making you explode harder than ever. You’ll leave marked by my scent and haunted by the memory of how completely, utterly spent you felt.
Getting hard just imagining it, aren’t you? 😏 Stop dreaming. Let’s create it.
📱 — Your first text changes everything.
Tell me your deepest, darkest wish… and I’ll tell you exactly how we’ll bring it to life.
— Eden
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Welcome to book an appointment
Price Incall
30 minutes $120
60 minutes $170
Price. Outcall
60 minutes $300
Call or txt me
0478368742
24/7 available
High-quality girl from China
I am a lovely, adorable Asian girl who likes fun and laughter. I have a gorgeous size 6 figure, soft skin, and natural busty D-cup breasts. I have a sexy smile and plenty of enthusiasm - I am looking forward to spending some quality time with you!
A little bit shy, but there are a lot of naughty surprises in my
bag to delight you. Lose your inhibitions as I press my body up
against yours.
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I give pleasure in a slow, unhurried service. I am confident I
to
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Don't be shy, give me a message today - You will not be.
disappointed!
15 minutes 80
20 minutes 100
30 minutes 120
45 minutes 150
60 minutes 170
Out Call $300 for 1 hour subject to distance to travel
Overnight upon request.
Contact me: 0479023133
Pink Baby girl wants to help you relax! GFE, PSE, BBBJ available
Canning Vale shop location
I am a young Aussie girl who is fit with tattoos and curves in all the right places, I have nice big blue eyes and pink hair, what more could you possibly want? 😘
But wait, there's more 🤭 I offer a sensual oil massage service with GFE, or BBBJ w/CIM options in Canning Vale.
Send me a message if you want to know more.
There are shower facilities available please ask upon arrival if you would like to use them, to freshen yourself up!
Payment methods are cash, and EFTPOS.
No payid 🚫
Availability:
SATURDAY 10am - 8:00pm
SUNDAY 10am - 8:00pm
MONDAY 10am - 8:00pm
💖
Please text me to book an appointment, or enquire.
!PLEASE NOTE: If you book through the shop or walk in without a booking via this number then the service options and prices are not the same xx 💋!
✨ Important Notices✨
I do not answer calls and I am often busy with bookings so for fastest reply please text with preferred time and length of booking and I will get back to you when I am free. SAME DAY BOOKINGS ONLY, to save chasing up confirmation the morning of 🥰 I can reply to messages when I’m free between bookings or sometimes on my days off 🩷
I do not take email or private number bookings for safety reasons.
No outcall, or Private work, I only work in my friends shop, for safety reasons 🥰
If you book, and do not show up, it will be cancelled and you will not be able to book again. If you can’t make it, or are running late, please cancel the booking to avoid this happening 😽
Please do not come to your booking with a cold/flu/covid, we do not want to risk any of the other girls or customers getting sick, please just rebook for a day when you are well, and rested.
Kate xx 🩷💋😘
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Hi Guys
I am Bobo a beautiful 22 year old girl with a tiny size 7 cuvry body, amazing busty C cup breasts and silky smooth skin with a nice firm bum. I'm also clean shaven down under :)😘
lady, with a very naughty streak. youngI am a sweet, fun and intelligent
I am playful, classy and passionate, with a lust for fun and pleasure.
Being a professional dancer, my body is petite, toned, waxed and very flexible.
I have perfect doll like features and a seductive smile.
Long platinum blonde hair, a tiny waist and supple little breasts.
GFE, passion and affection Service , Sexy lingerie and Stocking ,Relief , touching, cuddling , oil body rub.
I’m experimental and open to exploring your desires and fantasies, I love to try new things!I also have lots of costumes ,feel free to ask me to put the one you like to become your doll girl!!!!!
Full services: Protected sex, shower together, 69, body slide, massage, BJ, different position etc.❤️
Also, I provide many extras. You can call or message to enquiry:)😘
Full services rate:
$100/30mins
$150/60mins
🚗Outcall: $300/hr
give me a call to get more information
Gina: ☎️0450 609 755
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This is Myla I’m 24yo, an absolutely gorgeous face and you won't be able to get enough of! I have a perfectly round bubble butt and amazing natural Big breasts! The PERFECT playmate!
I got straight silky hair and smooth milky skin, and slim figure, will lift away all of your daily tensions and leave you feeling relaxed & rejuvenated. You will definitely enjoy my boobs.
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- Nurse
- Overnight stays
- Role play
- Sex toys
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- Cuddling and Touching
- Dirty Talk
- Overnight
- Teasing
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- Escort
- Erotic Relaxation
- Full Service
- Intimidation on You
- Relief
( Some are extras )
Incall Price:
* 20 minutes $100
* 30 minutes $120
* 60 minutes $170
* Easy parking
* OUTCALLS: 300/hr
⭐️Text or call me : 0433 565 752 ⭐️
Unit 2 235 Rockingham Rd Spearwood
Welcome gentlemen:
We have 2-3 young and friendly girls working daily, We offer full-body massage, Chinese massage, and Thai massage. Plenty of parking available.
All our masseuses are well trained to give 5 Star Massage & Relief. Combining with our comfy environment, we will definitely give you a good time and relax fun.
Each room is equipped with air conditioning, heating, and we have a shower room as well.
30 minutes - $ 50
45 minutes - $ 70
60 minutes - $ 90
90 minutes - $140
Open 7 days: 10am - 8pm
Booking preferred to secure your time with us
Credit card payments accepted.
It’s Best just walk in !!!!!
For bookings please call: 0460 535 544
Address: 2/235 Rockingham Rd, Spearwood, WA 6163
I’m back! Did you miss me ;) PLEASE NOTE BEFORE BOOKING THAT IM 6 MONTHS PREGNANT
*Please note before booking that I’m 6 months pregnant*
I love being spoiled, shopping and fine dining.
No anal
Pse includes Moaning, dirty talk, different sexual positions such as 69, deep throat, spanking, using sex toys and bbbj.
Gfe includes more compassion like kissing, deep French kissing, cuddling, oral sex, massage.
Filming $250 per hour
Dinner/Social dates $350
1 hour GFE $750
1.5 hour GFE $1,100
2 hours GFE $1,400
3 hours GFE $2,000
6 hours GFE $4,000
12 hours GFE $8,000
Overnight GFE $6,000
Message about PSE pricing
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Hello Gentleman,
Ring me on 0432780712
I am an independent high class Singapore escort located in Padbury available for incalls and outcalls to nearby hotels only. I have a warm, friendly personality and I will provide you with the ultimate Asian girlfriend experience. I have a real passion for sex and I will share this for gentlemen who want to share an intimate encounter with a truly beautiful and elegant lady.
My name is Natasha, 26 y/o from Singapore with huge E cup boobs, body size 6 only.
I have piercing black eyes, long, silky dark hair, delicate lips that are kissable, and a stunning grin.
I take pride in my appearance and always like to look my best, I am diligent in how I look at all times, and enjoy the company of men who have a passion to look their best.
Erotic Body Relaxation(you must try blow skill!!)
Half hour $120
One hour $200
Service include oral kissing sensual massage and sex
Half hour $140
One hour $240
Outcall have taxi fee and I do not go to far away!!
Unfortunately, I don’t answer private or blocked numbers so please provide your caller ID.
No natural sex and anal sex. pLs don’t ask
Call: 0432780712
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all a man requires in the bedroom.
I'm completely with you when we are together. I find it extremely pleasurable to delight a man physically, emotionally, and sexually.
I'm fun and flirty open-minded in the bedroom and would love to indulge in
your deepest desires, please get in touch with me and learn more about your naughtiest, wildest, fantasies.
Out/incall available, FREE if fake❤️, BBBJ Package, Double SM, ANAL, Party, squirt, BJ with water, Dominant, sexual kick, NURU tell me what u want my SLAVE
Hello, my lovely Men, 0450 306 298😘
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2 Girls Working today~ Cindy, and Yoyo
I’m an absolutely friendly girl, easygoing, passionate and discreet for your privacy. I may look like your dream girl in your mind, also have an appetite of sexual desire on the bed with you :) Especially with men who know to tease, lick and suck on every inch of my silky smooth body. Let’s have a mutual appreciation from our encounter.
I love foreplay and enjoy mutual climax for both of us. I love to feel you inside me while you touching and caressing my Big Beautiful boobs.
Special Skills: BJ with water.
Full GFE includes:😘
Shower Together
Sexy Rub/Massage
Kissing
Balls Worship
Mutual Masturbation
Blowjob
Pussy Licking & 69
Sex in any position you can handle(!)
Come on Boobs or Body
Plus extras!
My Full Service rate:❤️
$100 for 20mins
$120 for 30mins
$170 for 60mins
Full Services including BBBJ: $150/30mins, $200/hr
Double girls rate: $220/30mins, $320/hr.
Extra & Threesome Available too~ Ask me for detail...
I also do escort to your private house and Hotel
Outcall: $250 per hour ( Depending on distance)
If you just want to relax and let me do the work, I provide Erotic Nude massage with Hand Relief
$100 for 30 mins
$150 for 60 mins
Nuru massage available
Outcall: $250/hr
Text me or call me
0450 306 298☎️
Can’t wait to see you
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My name is Bunny, 22 year old, sexy body, natural big tits with long hair and always have a smile on my face.
These are my real recent photos, I will always make sure that you are comfortable and relaxed!
I'm sure that you are dreaming of finding an unforgettable experience so let me assure you that you have found the girl of your dreams!
I know exactly what a man wants and knows how to give it! your pleasure will be my top priority!
If you are ready to try new things with a beautiful girl like myself, then you are in for the time of your life.
Full services including: BJ, Protected sex, cuddle, massage, different position, licking balls, 69 etc.
Extras: please call or text me to enquiry xoxo
Full services
100$ for 20 mins
120$ for 30 mins
150$ for 45 mins
170$ for 60 mins
Nuru massage, Nuru gel with happy ending: $100/30mins, $150/hr
Outcall available $300/hr
text or call me:
0433 178 828☎️
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Thank you so much for taking the time to click into my profile, I feel so delighted to know I've proved special attention. new Super Hot Naughty lady here offering you the ULTIMATE girlfriend experience, get feel would describe me as cheeky fun ! Even though I'm super can satisfy you beyond measures., if you like to be teased then come choose definitely the amazing girl for you!
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SERVICE GFE
Traditional Massage
Incall price
30mins $100
60mins $150
Outcall price 60mins $250
Depends on distance
Please call or text message get more details.
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💋 BORED OF THE SAME OLD ROUTINE? 💋
Maybe it’s time you had a little Yumi time… 😘
Hi gentlemen, I’m Yumi 🌹
Sweet when I want to be… cheeky most of the time. 😉
I’m affectionate, playful, open-minded and love making my visitors feel completely relaxed and wanted.
Come in, close the door and forget about everything outside for a while.
🔥 WHY VISIT YUMI?
💋 Kissing & cuddles
🌹 Warm, genuine GFE
💆♂️ Relaxing massage
🔥 Sensual body-to-body experience
😉 Playful & adventurous
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No cold or mechanical experience here. I want you to feel comfortable, relaxed and very well looked after from the moment we meet. 😘
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30 mins — $50
45 mins — $70
60 mins — $80
90 mins — $130
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30 mins — $100
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What you see is really me. ❤️
📱 TEXT YUMI — 0493 710 060
Text is best. If I’m busy, I’ll reply as soon as I’m free. 💌
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I'm offering many types of luxuries for our private occasion together;
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I have an extremely action-packed lifestyle, between my work, university, personal life and training to keep myself in top shape for my lovers. My experience is all-inclusive.
I do offer a- few extra treats if you really looking to take a walk on the wild side! Prior to making a booking take a look through what I offer and choose .
What you think you would like to share with me and let me know when making the first contact..
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Hi guys,😘
FREE IF FAKE!!!
I'm young and sexy girl with big natural tits, providing good services to my customers. You won't feel any disappointment after you saw me, and I'm pretty sure you will miss me and see me again. The follow is my services
This sensual experience in such a beautiful pampering that you will come back for more.
using a slippery type of Geru Gel, this is soft, slippery and beautiful.
Nuru and Geru is a unique blend of body slides using all body parts, from thighs, buttocks, feet, forearms and back to allow a full body contact experience.
More information
At present, exotic massages are very trendy - both in the private bedroom and in professional massage studios. The special appeal is based on the unique combination of sensuality and relaxation as well as the unification of body, spirit and soul. The Kayma massage is a form of exotic massage and stems from Europe.. It is characterised by a special sliding factor. The typical picture of a Kayma massage are two partners sliding back and forth on top of each other.
Exotic massages are experiencing a boom. They help recovering sensuality in a long-standing relationship. And they help singles to experience creative adventures. In the professional area a Kayma massage can catapult people into totally different spheres, because here in the hands of professionals are at work rather in the hands of laymen. This creates a unique combination of wellness, health and exoticism.
The slippery massage:
"Kayma" can be translated as "very smooth" or "slippery". The exotic interplay is characterised by a lot of "smoothness". The partners slide back and forth on top of each other. Physical closeness, the cosy feeling of sliding and the stimulation of the entire body by a second person can lead up to the climax. The naked body of the other person should be perceived as intensely as possible. The closeness between the two bodies on its own can already ensures a lot of excitement. In a private setting a Kayma massage is often the foreplay leading to sex. In the professional area there is no sexual intercourse. Here, the parties involved stick to the body to body massage. A sliding gel eases the sliding of the two bodies. But not just any gel can be used. We only use a special slippery gel. This is a sliding gel, which has been developed especially for this type of massage. It is produced with sea algae, and it is especially suitable for longer massages. Many sliding gels dry to quickly, which makes the gel a suitable alternative. It is also transparent and odourless, and can be washed off easily. It also does not matter that the gel develops fine threads, as soon as the bodies move with each other.
What does a Kayma massage specifically look like?
First, the sliding gel is gently spreads on the entire body. This is the first exotic contact. And it is the first possibility to start massaging selected body parts. Then the full body massage starts. It is important, that really only the body is used as a massaging tool. The masseuses and masseurs slide millimetre by millimetre across the wet body. Additionally, they wiggle around. In the erogenous zones the body contact can be more intense. Gentle pressure has a particularly exciting effect. In the beginning, the slippery touch may still be a bit unusual. But later you will discover new moves and new feelings. Finally the massage can be left to the two bodies, which melt two into one unit and move and touch each other in the same rhythm. This is the true pleasure of a Kayma massage.
To ensure that the bodies can stay united as long as possible, you do not need a massage oil, but the special massage gel. It is particularly slippery, which helps promoting exotic feelings best. Both participants make full use of their bodies, even when the masseuses and masseurs can adjust the movement and rhythm with their experience and their intuition depending on the situation.❤️
The Kayma massage takes place in a stimulating, exciting and sensual environment. This allows you both to melt into one unity. Candlelight, dimmed lights, upon request certainly music or suitable smells create a soothing and tender atmosphere. The body slide, i.e. the special massage technique of the entire body is normally done starting low and sliding upwards. Bottom and breasts are particularly suitable for the massage and extremely appealing.❤️
All in all, the Kayma massage is a sexy oil massage, which is particularly appealing thanks to its "slippery" closeness. The fact that the entire body is used makes this massage a special experience, because you experience all body parts directly skin to skin - both your own and those of your partner. As everything is slippery, there are no uncomfortable or rough movements. Everything slides, and the movements develop their own rhythm.❤️
Full services rate:
$100/20mins
$120/30mins
$170/hr
Nuru massage with body slide: $100/30mins, $150/hr
Outcall: $250/hr
0404 871 608☎️
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Hi babe,😘
I'm Izabella. I adore connecting with people and helping you feel at ease while you take a well deserved. I'll break your time from your busy life I know the value of an opportunity to truly unwind.
And it is my pleasure to provide you. If I can do anything to make your stay happy, I will be pleased to do it, and I promise 100% satisfaction.
Whether you’re seeking the tender company of a caring companion or the fiery spark of a seductive muse, I knows exactly how to make you feel desired, relaxed, and deeply satisfied.
Thrives on creating genuine connections, making you feel as though you are the only one in the room. I am playful, sensual, and always attentive to your desires, ensuring that every moment with me is both intimate and indulgent.
Perfect for gentlemen who crave beauty, elegance, and unforgettable pleasure.
Services I offer: GFE, Sensual hot oil Massage, French Kiss,Strip-tease, pussy Licking, 69 Oral, Ball Sucking, Cuddling and touching, Variety of positions, Deep Throat, Face Fucking, sloppy blowjob
Full service starts at❤️
$100-30Mins
$150-60Mins
B B B J with full services package:
$150/30mins
$200/hr
Rimming with full services package:
$150/30mins
$200/hr
Outcall
$300-60Mins
Extras available for enquirt
I am staying in a private place, very discreet with parking available.
Please feel free to call or message: 0414 673 498☎️
SPECIAL PRICE 💋 $100 / BBBJ The Ultimate Blowjob Queen
A 30-year-old woman already knows exactly how to make your heart race. She knows how to draw you in with her eyes, tease you with her voice, and get a little closer until the tension becomes impossible to ignore.
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Tonight, do you want to experience the queen’s red lips for yourself?
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